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I had to stop watching this not even half way through. Humans are crazy and even more ignorant of their craziness.

Vegetarianism is the way to go.

It is horribly immoral to eat meat in my view. There's really no reason to do it other than the taste of the animal's dead flesh in your mouth being liked. There is only the question of animal protein, and that is easily solvable with a vegetarian diet. I hate how nonchalant meat is, especially in the US. Don't people think? It's bad for you, it's immoral, and we don't need to do it.

don't even leave a comment if you didn't finish watching this film
you all gonna go back to eating meat after couple days anyways

Only if you're a terrible, ignorant human being. Or only if you're too cold to care.

WHILE I will agree that there are many cases of cruelty in the animal killing process, the fact is it happens so little in the big scope of things. The majority of animal processing companies take care to be within all aplicable laws and kill the animals with as much humane care as possible……BUT

While you have a right to feel as you may, it does not make your beliefs the way for everyone. And the fact that some of you result to name calling towards a person who chooses to eat meat invalidates any argument you may have had.

While all fo us need to be against animal cruelty in any form, there is nothing unhealthy, as another stated, about eating meat. In fact we were born, or evolved for those of you who buy into that hogwash, with teeth designed for meat consumption. There are positives and negatives no matter what diet you choose and that includes vegeterian and meat eating. Spend a life in excess in either diet, and you have issues. But that fact is scientist have found problems with excluding meat in diets and have found problems with including meat. But with the inclusion of meat, the main issue they found was nto solely th econsumption of meat, but the excess consumption of it or consistent intake of fatty meats.

If you want to be vegetarian, so be it but do not ever believe that because fo your diet you are better than the rest or better off for your diet, because that is not true nor is it backed scientifically.

The root issue here should not be " I am better because I eat no meat" or vise versa, it should be a combined effort to deal with the minority of companies and people that abuse animals for fun or for profit! The basic fact of life is that without the killing of animals, their population would grow so rapidly that they would starve each other out and with the influx of disease, most would die in agony. If you do nto believe it, look up the horrible conditions that occurred in Michigan to the deer population after the leftist animal protection groups were able to greatly decrease the culling of. It only took a few years for the law to be repealed due to the hundreds of thousands of deer laying on the ground in the snow starving to death after the food sources depleted. Not to mention the horrible effects of TB that the deer had to die with in agony. After the law was repealed, deer starvation went down to nearly zero, deer hit on the roads went down greatly, and TB was brought, for the most part, under control.

Sympathy is one thing, lack of sound knowledge is another. And when well meaning people force laws that make no sense nor have scientific backing, the very animals they meant toprotect, end up harmed!

Fact, plants do not have a central nervous system, nor do they have pain receptors…and as far as the scientific world can tell, plants do not have a consciosuness; they aren't aware of their own suffering, but all animals that are eaten, do. When a pig is about to have it's throat slit, it becomes scared, when a chicken's beak is burned, it feels that pain.

I am a vegetarian but I don't beleive that I am better than anyone, even those that chose to eat living, breathing creatures. I do beleive however, that as a society we are too far removed for the raising + killing process. When we buy meat it doesn't look like a pig that had it's throat slit, it looks like a pink, fleshy substance wrapped in plastic and paper.

I think this issue gets messy because by virtue of your dietary choices it places a moral judgement on those that are opposite to that particular diet.
That being said, I think it IS a moral choice to not eat meat (because we don't need it survive, therefore it becomes a pleasure/tradition issue, not one of necessity).
That being said, there are certain facts that cannot be ignored, such as the fact that it is possibile to live a completely healthy life without any animal fats. Yes, there needs to be accomodations (such as B12 vitamins, flax seed oil, etc..), but the argument that one NEEDS to consume meat to be healthy, is nothing more than a justification. It is a choice we make, not a necessity.

Since when can't we handle more than one issue at a time? That seems like a bit of an excuse. So what, if we are dealing with the recession, we can't handle pollution also? Solving an issue isn't conditional to having a prior one solved, moving the world in a more moral direction can take place by dealing with multiple issues at one time.
Also, not really sure what you mean by saying "oblivious to the real problems facing this world", since when did anyone involved in the AR movement ever say anything about negating other issues like human rights, if anything, they are more inclined to be sympathetic because the AR movement has to do with understanding the suffering of others.

simply eye opening !
yes, we can change our thinking . It will benifit all of us " the earthlings". Secondly, the proverb " as long exists the slaughterhoused , so shall be the bettle fields. It is great contribution by the director of this documentry . I may not have understood it word by word , but i am sure this messege is not going to harm us ' the human kind".

I think it's hilarious, and also disturbing, how many bull shit "facts" some people will come up with to prove animal rights activists wrong. I mean Travis, I hardly believe you've done any research compared to the people who made this film. Give me a break. No one who knows anything about this issue will defend the factory farms.

And I am now a vegetarian!
(dont eat fish either, everyone who watched this should watch the end of the line)

I'm sorry I don't care.
Just because were smart enough that we figured out a way that we don't have to hunt down out food and bash it to death with a rock doesn't mean what we do isn't perfectly natural.
It isn't nice, it isn't pretty, it's nature plain and simple.
If we as a species didn't kill and eat other lesser animals our brains wouldn't have had the fuel to evolve to the point at which we could even feel anything let along sympathy for food.

Think about it before you get up on your high horse about being a vegetarian.

Animal abuse-bad…….animal use-fine. I have quite a few vegetarian friends and no vegan friends. There's a big reason for that. Most vegetarians are down to earth open people and most vegans are just plain insane. What the hell was this that I just watched, besides a sickening scare tactic. It's pathetic the lengths people will go to to make everyone else just like them. I've never abused an animal in my life, I do however use them, just as vegan and vegetarians use plants. Everything is made up of the exact same stuff and it all deserves our respect and appreciation. Not everyone will show that respect….and that's something we must live with. From rape, murder, child abuse, animal cruelty to toxic dumping, there are bad people out there that are going to do even worse things to this planet. All you can do is try and not be one of them. But no one should have a problem with using the resources around you to sustain your own life.

All you vegetarians and vegans should go share a lettuce sandwich with a hungry wild lion or tiger. As your being eaten alive you will have time to reconsider your hypocrisy.

we like to concider ourselves as more than animals, but the fact is that we are. and like any predator we subjugate the ones that are under our chain. its the way it is. and anyone assuming that animals are somehow better, consider the 'animals never had a war' thing that people quote. they have never had to. they eat whatever species is below them on the food chain. sadly we have the responsibility and the power to eat all those below us. its simply an art we havent mastered yet. but it is our reality

When considering moral implications, its really more of a philosophical question than anything. Yes animals do feel pain as us but one may argue that the exploitation of animals is just an inevitable factor of their position in the food chain, with some of the methods (especially of intensive farming) illustrated in this film proliferated by our ever increasing population and need to exhaust the calorific carrying capacity of the earth.

The whole 'human career' has depended upon the death of animals. Of course watching the death of some entity considered sentient is generally not a pleasureable experience, especially for the majority of people who are hidden from this and are not de-sensitised to killings graphic and brutal qualities.

If animals werent used as pets, or in farming they would most likely become extinct in the way so many other species have by the gradual minimilisation of their habitat and the expansion of ours. One may argue however that the extintion of a species is more humane than keeping it alive in a constant state of suffering, but of course here ethical questions will also arise.

It may seem like im trying to defend the visibly cruel practices in place, but im not. In fact im not trying to make an argument either way, im just trying to express how i feel about this issue. I am shocked by this film even though that was obviously the intention, but my desire to eat meat and wear leather supersede my guilt over the matter, and as an earthling that is my decision.. i just hope there is no such thing as reincarnation.

Poorly devised economic systems, no regulations … Max profit by any means. Our social backbone is apparently built around irrational destruction.

Some could call it a comment
Others might say it's propaganda.

My "Opinion" = Let's all try to eat a little less meat.

In doing so, we'd contribute to reducing CO2 emissions, tons of methane, and as a Bonus, we'd also help reduce cruelty towards animals.
It's a win-win-win deal.

not fair to say its irrelevant at all, its his/ her opinion, not your theres, it may not exactly be about the subject but it is related in idea of message and thus, is very relevant !, dont hate appreciate, over and out pce :)

i am ashamed to be called a human!

i say thank god for natural disasters and diseases like cancer and aids that are culling humans from this planet.

we 'humans' are the worst speices on this planet!

Speciesism? If speciesism is favoring one's own species over another species, then every single species is speciesist, and rightly so. We are here to compete, if you have a problem with that, evolution offers the answer of removal of you individually, and if your species overall shares your lack of speciesism, your species itself shall be removed. Welcome to Earth. We've been doing this for billions of years.

Being a regular doesn't give you, or anyone, the right to be rude to any visitor. This isn't "your home" and this isn't a fighting arena, it's a forum to exchange ideas and knowledge.

Respect is a minimum anywhere in society, Mr Imperien.

Thank you

"It draws parallels between animal and human suffering."

You say that as if it were a bad thing. *scratches head*

Very well put TRAVIS. I believe your comment travis was a statement of facts and drew no assumptions. You gave points to both sides of the equation. And the fact that eating plants is just as bad as animals makes sense seeing as though we DONT speak plant. Either way there IS no way of rationalizing this topic exept for the fact that if we choose to survive meat or vegetable makes no difference. Its the uncruel and only nessasary way of doing it for survival that can rationalize what we do. As long as we stick to compassion (a trait that in itself makes us human in the first place) and feed in the most respectful way possible, i'm sure we can find rational meaning in our thought process and actions.

Its true what we have all just watched is cruel. But it doesnt mean we shouldnt eat meat. It just means we should not support animal cruelity and if we have to feed, do it in a way that reflects the intelligence of our race. We should not support what we just saw.We should boycott, prepare our own meat in a way thats not cruel, WHATEVER so that we can justify feeding in a way that doesnt make us feel guilty. Period.

20 min into the doc. i was almost in tears and wanted to turn it off.

we live in a F*cked up world.PERIOD

i understand that people need to work for a living, but for someone to get up everyday and go to these slaughtering factories and treat other living beings in this manner is just astounding to me.
i would really like to know exactly how many of the people that do this for a living actually eat meat. its such a heartless, disgusting process.

this just makes me wonder why so many people believe in a god… if there was an all knowing, all loving, omnipotent being watching over all of us, do you think he/she would allow this to go on?

we are all animals sharing this earth. just because humans have the ability to communicate in a more intelligent(for lack of a better word) fashion doesn't mean we are any better. the human species has actually devolved in my opinion. we depend on factories like these shown in this documentary to supply our food for us, millions of years ago they would have went out and hunted their own food. we depend on electricity, running water, shelter and all this new advanced technology to get us through the day. yes, we have more knowledge about "things" now, but we have lost all connection with nature and the earth and where we came from,And really the true meaning of life. humans are the most horrible species.

Good point, but don’t strike up the backing on science on one hand while simultaneously calling evolution ‘hogwash’ on another. Hypocrisy.

Yhea i had to stop watching this to… damn !…

This is a very emotional topic. We’re attached to food. I’m on the fence with this one.

I absolutely adore animals, I think factory farming is cruel, dangerous and wrong, I try to buy as much organic grass-fed meat as much as I can. I eat meat because that is what I’ve been accustomed to. I have tried being vegetarian but I lost too much weight, becoming tired and doctors forced me to go back on meat. But I understand why people do it. I admire those who can do it long term and stick to it (it’s hard, it really is). I also know the impact factory farming has on the environment and it’s really disturbing. I hate it, but most meat eaters (90% of the population) are guilty of it (I’ve had a hamburger before so I am just as guilty).

On the other hand, people who buy meat that is humanely killed, where the animal when it was alive was treated well, cared for and fed it’s natural diet and was allowed to roam around and get fresh air etc I don’t see what is so bad about that. People will eat meat whether you like it or not, human ancestors have been doing this for eons. Anthropologists have overwhelming evidence that humans hunted and ate meat as well as other foods. The concept of veganism and vegetarianism is only attributed to some humans, as most mammals are not pure vegans or vegetarians. Even grass eating animals eat some forms of smaller creatures such as insects on the grass and foliage they consume and bacteria.

There is nothing wrong with meat that is raised in the way nature intended (fed grass, allowed to roam, not fed hormones or antibiotics, gets fresh air and sun, has adequate room, allowed to bond with it’s young or mother etc). That type of meat is usually found to be sold by small organic farmers – which we should support. Factory farms are eradicating the small farmer which is so sad. Plus the meat that is factory farmed will cause health problems. That is shown in most studies with animal protein. Even wild fish in oceans have toxins like mercury or PSBs in their flesh. Seems like nothing is clean anymore. So thats why when someone asks me “what’s a healthy diet?” I usually say eat less meat (unless you can find meat that’s raised well and killed humanely).

possibly, but it is driven by supply and demand. It is not like they would keep doing these things if their stock was just piling up and going to waste. I refer back to the Bacon rule. Bacon is delicious and people will eat it. Most do not care enough where it comes from or how it was made, to change their habits.

On a side note, pigs are amazing animals… you feed them practically anything, and it turns into BACON…. that rocks

i never liked meat, just some ham or sea food but after what i saw i won’t be able to eat ham anymore or buy leather shoes. that’s ok but, by far, not enough. what can I/we do to close the slaugther houses?

!?!? hahahahaha

Thank you for the movie. I wouldn’t believe if I wouldn’t see it… I also had to stop the movie. Something has to be done or has to happen to change this situation.

i already had contempt for my fellow man. this has escalated it to unprecedented levels. unlike most of you, i watched this all. thank you to the creators for helping me regain perspective.

good stuff m’man, my thoughts exactly