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  • 31 Responses to “Genocide of the Armenians”

    1. Gurol says:

      I am Turkish and I strongly disagree with this documentary. Genocide never happened. Please remove this documentary and do not politicise this beautiful website.

      • DocDanny says:

        Just because you disagree with something does not mean it has to be taken down. Thats the completely wrong attitude. If you don’t agree with it, then please don’t watch it.

      • Néeni says:

        Too late, there’s already a political category!

      • Rosemary says:

        The only reason you disagree with it is because it’s the truth staring you right in the face and your country brainwashed you alongside everyone else….EVEN THOUGH there were MANY, MANY PEOPLE that witnessed what was happening to them and even WROTE about it as it was happening to PROVE THE TURKISH GOVERNMENT KILLED INNOCENT CHRISTIAN LIVES…. it’s really sad when you cover up such a horrible autrocity like that, their blood is screaming from the ground while the government stands there saying “I don’t hear anything, you’re crazy” ….I think you should learn how to think for yourself and not let others tell you what they say is the truth…so sad….

      • joe gallagher says:

        hey asshole if u want one sided stories watch fox news

    2. Gurol says:

      Be happy with the documentary then. But do not forget , there are always two sides on a medallion. Plus I didnt mean I dont watch it , i meant to stop you believing the lies. But there it is watch it and enjoy. Very unfortunate for us even more unfotunate for the rest of the world.

      • DocDanny says:

        of course, i am always ready to hear both sides, no matter the issue. the truth will always come out.

        • Gurol says:

          Dear DocDanny , Unfotunately this is where I’m stuck. I do not have any documents to show you in English. Everything is in turkish. I tried to fins some documents to show to my english g/f years ago. But we couldnt find any in english. I can not prove you the anti-thesis right here. Govermental archives can be visited online. Its in english. Only there. But thank you for you understanding.
          Also one more thing,
          If there is any Jewish person who read this , and know their history, Turkish Republic, founded by Ataturk has saved over 300.000 German Jews from Hitler during the WWII. We gave them Turkish Passports and Hitler’s Germany couldnt touch them. Then we transferred them to France , got them on the ships and brought them to Turkey.Since that time , they lived in peace. So please imagine a country saves people from slaughter. Yet this country accused to saughter over 1.5 million armenians. Please everybody , think. Please.
          Also in WW1 , Anzac to invade Turkey / Gallipoli , have resufed to use gas masks distributed by English officers. They said Turks would never use gas to us. That was right. We never used gas on them. Imagine an army , doesnt kill it’s enemy in the unfair way , but the same army kills 1.5 million civilians just 5 years later. Does that make sense to anybody ?

          Thats why I strongly disagree with this video and the idea of Genocide.

      • Darnell says:

        @ Gurol,

        You can’t simply call the documentary bullsh*t without backing it up.
        The only people I seen in the video who were “liars” so to speak; were the some of the Turkish officials who were playing sementics and word games.

        • Gurol says:

          I didnt ever say Bullsh.t. Did I ? I said : I strongly disagree. Believe whatever you believe. I wish I could invite you to Turkey and get you in to entire Ottoman Archives. ” We were the ones who got slaughered ” what do you say to that ?

      • AKing says:

        I’m not sure you even watched the documentary or have thought dispassionately about the reality of what happened. The documentary acknowledges that Armenians attacked Ottoman officials in the decades prior to the 1915. The difference is that they attacked an oppressive authoritarian regime in order to gain freedom of their own country, while the Ottoman empire sought to purge the Armenian element from its military and ultimately from its entire empire.

        One last point: you say you “didn’t mean don’t watch it,” yet in your first response to the video, you demanded that the doc be removed from the site entirely. Your response is most unfortunate, I’d say, for the Armenian people.

        • Gurol says:

          Dear AKing,
          1-Armenians never had a proper country.
          2-Something happened, we call it EXILE. Ottoman Army never gathered 1.5 million people and slaughtered all at once.People died in th Exile I agree. I am sorry for that but Genocide is something different.
          2-Non muslims never forced to fight for Ottoman empired. Thats fari right ? So in thet period , All muslim Ottomans were sent to battle field. From east to West North to South. Many countries fought against us at that time period. So in the inner villages , only young and healthy and strong people were non-muslims. Among all non-muslims it was the Armenians who Revolted. Revolt – in that case was a BACK STABBING. So the Ottoman Empire decided to EXILE them.
          3-It wasnt only the Ottomans who exlied them in the history, Russians and Iranians did the same too. Hope it makes some sense to you.
          4- Turkey is a member of united nations. The Act Against Genocide was voted and acceted on 11th of December 1946. Turkey was one of the Voters. No country raised at thet time and claimed that a country which Genocided another nation can not be in the same act … But for last decade it was been a propaganda war. Please see the related act.
          5-Turkish prime minister offered to Armenia to gather two historian groups from both sides and let them study on this issue. He told them History belongs to historians. Not politicians to make decisions.
          6-Our archives open to public. You are always welcome.
          Also there are many things to tell but I do not want to distub anybody anymore.
          Thank you.

    3. Wendy says:

      Very nicely produced and informative doc about a part of history I would like to be more knowledgeable about. It’s also interesting to read the other comments.

      I think it’s naive to overlook the political point of view of the makers of the film. And genocide is a strong word to describe events that were, at the very least, less clear cut than what the Nazis sought and accomplished in Germany.

      But marching women and children in circles through the desert until they dropped is pretty hard to defend.

    4. John Cury says:

      Gurol, I think you are totally oblivious of history.
      Armenia never had a proper country? Hahahaha? Armenians existed as a nation since 2000BC where Turks were nomads and only came about in 1452-1453
      assembly of the Association of Genocide Scholars in its conference held in Montreal, June 11–13, 1997, reaffirms that the mass murder of over a million Armenians in Turkey in 1915 is a case of genocide which conforms to the statutes of the United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide. It further condemns the denial of the Armenian Genocide by the Turkish government and its official and unofficial agents and supporters.
      – Among the prominent scholars who supported the resolution were: Roger W. Smith (College of William & Mary; President of AGS); Israel Charny (Hebrew University, Jerusalem); Helen Fein, Past President AGS); Frank Chalk (Concordia University, Montreal); Ben Kiernan (Yale University); Anthony Oberschall (University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill); Mark Levene (Warwick University, UK); Rhoda Howard (McMaster University, Canada), Michael Freeman (Essex University, UK), Gunnar Heinsohn (Bremen University, Germany)
      Since that time the IAGS have repeatedly asserted that the Ottoman massacres of Armenians as genocide for example on 7 March 2009, in an open letter to President Obama, Gregory Stanton, President IAGS stated “we urge you to ‘refer to the mass slaughter of Armenians as genocide in your commemorative statement,’ as you urged President George W. Bush to do in a letter dated March 18, 2005.”[7]
      In February 2002 an independent legal opinion commissioned by the International Center for Transitional Justice, concluded that the Ottoman massacre of Armenians in 1915–1918 “include[d] all of the elements of the crime of genocide as defined in the [Genocide] Convention, and legal scholars as well as historians, politicians, journalists and other people would be justified in continuing to so describe them”.[8]
      In 2007, the Elie Wiesel Foundation for Humanity wrote a letter signed by 53 Nobel Laureates re-affirming the Genocide Scholars’ conclusion that the 1915 killings of Armenians constituted genocide.[9] Wiesel’s organization also asserted that Turkish acknowledgement of the Armenian Genocide would create no legal “basis for reparations or territorial claims”, anticipating Turkish anxieties that it could prompt financial or territorial claims.[10]
      Other international organizations officially recognizing the Armenian Genocide include:
      • European Parliament (1987,[11] 2000,[12] 2002,[13] 2005[14])
      • Council of Europe [15]
      • World Council of Churches [16]
      • Human Rights Association (Turkey) [17]
      • European Alliance of YMCAs [18]
      • Permanent Peoples’ Tribunal [19]
      • Mercosur [20]
      Sovereign states officially recognizing the Armenian Genocide include:
      • Argentina (2 laws,[30][31] 3 Resolutions[32][33][34])
      • Armenia[35]
      • Australia Australian State Parliaments of New South Wales and South Australia recognized the Armenian Genocide.
      • Belgium [36]
      • Brazil Brazilian State Parliaments of Ceará and São Paulo recognized the Armenian Genocide.
      • Canada (1996,[37] 2002,[38] 2004[39])
      • Chile [40]
      • Cyprus [41]
      • France (2001 Act of Parliament[42][43][44][45][46][47])
      • Germany [48]
      • Greece [49]
      • Iran [50]
      • Lithuania [51]
      • Lebanon [52]
      • Netherlands [53]
      • Poland [54]
      • Russia [55]
      • Slovakia [56]
      • Spain Basque and Catalonian Parliaments recognized the Armenian Genocide.
      • Sweden [48]
      • Switzerland [57]
      • Ukraine The Supreme Council of Crimea recognized the Armenian Genocide.[58]
      • United Kingdom The regional assemblies in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland recognized the Armenian Genocide.
      • United States 44 of 50 states of the USA that recognize the Armenian Genocide[59]
      • Uruguay (1965,[60] 2004[61])
      • Vatican City [62]
      • Venezuela [63]

      Also can you please bring me some facts when has Iran or Russia exiled Armenians?
      Russia has the largest Armenian population, it is estimated that 2500000 Armenians live in Russia.

      • gUROL says:

        Wendy , thank you for the information you provided .. All those countries accept. It is correct. Its been mentioned in senates and accepted as regulations .. It is almost accepted by world. But we do not. Because we didnt. I personally do not have de proves at home but you can check the ottoman archives. Even if I will be the last person on earth , i will deny. Because I know how we fought against enemy armies and I know how my grandfather fought in WW1. I am honored with my history. I accept that Ottomans maybe had mistakes but those nomad Turks have never killed 1.5 million civilians. I am very well aware of my history , my people , my culture. Armenia wants land from Turkey thats all what matters. All that propaganda going on is just because f it. please google : Pax Ottomana. Is there a nation which delivers that term in the history and then the genocide afterwards ? As a nation , we have catacteristics. Nomad or resident , our nation has been existd over thousands of years.I wish you all guys could gt rid off prejudices and look at the fact from both sides. But you guys just can’t. You all try to condemn us with a crime we didnt committed. Germans accpet , because thay did.Also I am only defending my history here , nothing to mention about what US did in the past.I wish you all didnt hate Turks but you do. I was n this website only to watch science documentaries. Then I saw this documentary. What an unfortunate thing. Anyway , no Turk with a commonsense will accept the genocide bullshit. May all the world accept. I personally will not. Because I know who am I. Best regards to all I

        • Gero says:

          Typical how you say I when talking about Turkey. One thing I don’t like about turks (and other countries too) is all the nationalistic pride propaganda crap. What is there to be proud of? You where just born there. You could have been armenian and you then would have had a different opinion. I don’t know the facts about this issue i’m just analysing the comments. It’s true that there’s always at least two sides of a story but we’re all humans. Don’t get caught in the politics y’all. All governements try to erase or at least deny the ugly parts of their history. That’s because History is not moral. Don’t y’all be too judgmental about a country because your country has innocent victims too. As a french, I recon my country was the first to conduct a modern genocide in Haiti under Napoleon using cheemical weapon. But the french government refuses that Idea. So fuck France, fuck Turkey, fuck the US and all the big imperialistic countries in the first place. Peace to Humanity

    5. Dave Whiteside says:

      I think that it is safe to say that documented proof (if any exists) of a government orchestrated Armenian genocide will never see the light of day. The evidence offered up in this documentary is mostly anecdotal consisting of pictures and eyewitness accounts remembered, and in some cases, written down by those who witnessed or were subjected to the atrocities. It is really all we have to go on, but it is certainly compelling. Unfortunately, we (as a human race) have the capacity to kill each other in the most cruel and dehumanizing ways. We also have the equally disturbing tendency to deny it, even in the face of overwhelming evidence.
      I would like to ask two questions of those who deny that what took place was in fact a genocide. What proof would be necessary for you to accept that a genocide did take place and if that proof could be provided would you change your mind?

    6. kevinx says:

      everytime ppl turn to semantics, u know they are wrong
      the turks shud just admit to committing genocide
      fking pussies

      • gUROL says:

        Kevinx I deny they claim ..Whatever we talked here nobody ever cursed except you. This show your quality.

      • Brian says:

        the turks didn’t commit genocide just like the americans (and others) didn’t commit genocide against native americans… rrriight.

        basically it’s all semantics, it’s just that genocide is a bad word so they don’t want to admit to it. on the other hand genocide is in historically a natural phenomenon that is merely more scrutinized the more visible it is externally.. as times modernize it becomes ever more difficult to hide these dirty secrets.

        to say they never had a proper nation is a pretty weak argument as armenians (at least by name) were present in the region prior to the turkish presence and while they were usually under the suzerainty of larger empires most of the time did enjoy periods of independence as well. who can blame the armenians for revolting against an overlord (esp. of a different and arguably oppressive state religion) during war…

        it could be argued however that the armenians weighed the costs of rebelling with the benefits… essentially it was an act of war against it’s mother state so then who is to blame the turk for this “exile” or even genocide or whatever they would like to call it.

    7. Proud to be Turk says:

      Who gives a fuck about genocide, it was a war time, which means it was the time to kill eachother for a pieces of land, so it was normal to people to kill eachother to be a stronger at those times, it was sad but true.

      However, we Turks are the most friendlies people to everyone, we hate racism, and we will be remind the most hospitable nation in the world.
      I love you all and enjoy the life………..

      • Gero says:

        If you’re Muslim you should know that war has rules…. A Muslim is not supposed to kill the old, women and child.

    8. Ali Newsom says:

      I have not yet watched the Documentary I was so absorbed with your debate. I don’t think I need to now because doesn’t everyone see what a cruel world it is Everywhere? I’m a French/Irish/Dutch/English White American female and I Know we committed genocide and continue to impoverish and attempt to ‘adapt’ these great people. There’s blatant genocide going on in Africa Right Now! Maybe the Turks learned from their mistake and tried to be better people because of it, like the Germans, like a lot of Americans but not nearly enough unfortunately and The Armenians feel strongly and want the equivalent of an apology, to be acknowledged that they are not liars as I imagine African American’s wish the title thief or whatever racist thought would be acknowledged as false. We Enslaved them. Our country is far from Lilly White but look around and notice how dumbed down we are? How easily brainwashed? My point is this: It is a cruel horrible world and a beautiful one still and honesty if you have never read Harper Lee’s ‘To Kill a Mockingbird’ I highly recommend it but if everyone walked in another’s shoes; tried to really put themselves in another’s situation in this life maybe we could work towards making the world less cruel and more beautiful. Mistakes are made and should be learned from and we study History to try not to repeat mistakes, so this documentary is posted and if you wish to continue the fight then make one with evidence refuting it and let everyone be to make up their minds, not demand it be pulled. Thank you.

    9. Tom King says:

      Consider that the word “Genocide” was coined by a Jewish scholar in the late 1930s to try to convey what had happened to the Armenian race. 1.5 million people murdered by the Turks and their vassals equates to about a quarter of the race at that time.

    10. MsMarine says:

      My grandmother was a survivor of the Armenian Genocide. What as a documentary I heard in her personal accounts. 70 years after these atrocious events, she vividly remembered every horrible detail.
      The denial of the genocide is simply insulting!!!

    11. DEZ says:

      For all the people who responded to this, I wonder, while you all seem to disagree with genocide, how many of you live in Canada or the US. The largest genocide in history that continues on a daily basis, and not one person cares, is the native population of the “Americas”. You people who claim to denounce genocide, perhaps you should leave the Americas and stop commiting genocide. Talk about denial!!!!!!! Its ok for you to commit genocide and deny genocide, BUT its bad if other people do it!!!!!!!! People would be more responsive to your comments if you went back to you own countries and commented from there!!!
      Also remember to celebrate legalized genocide day on July 4th in the US and July 1st in Canada.

    12. Mel says:

      This is my first comment in the discussion, however, I feel like I should defend the Canadians who have participated. DEZ- in regards to your comment that “not one person cares”- I CARE. I am of German and Irish descent, two of my grandparents immigrated in the 50′s and my other grandparents are 2nd and 3rd generation Canadians. I have learned in class about the horrible things that European settlers did to the Native population and I have also done my own further research into the subject. I have friends who are Native and live in a town with Native people and from my experience, I would not think that my friends would want me to move out of Canada. I was born into Canada and with that I have inherited the burden of the actions of my ancestors, just as those in every other nations have. I don’t believe that the resolution to the conflicts with Aboriginal people can be solved this way— 30 million Canadians are difficult to find homes for elsewhere. So while I do accept the atrocities that have happened I want to to be able to change the way native people are currently treated. I recently wrote a University paper in which I referred to the Europeans who came to Canada and killed many native people as “invaders”. In response, I was told that this was racist language and I should not refer to the them as invaders and was given a terrible mark. This will not change my perspective though and I will continue to refer to them as invaders because that is the truth.

      Nobody in this conversation justified what the Europeans did when they invades the Americas and killed Native people. No one in this conversation said that the current treatment of Aboriginal people is acceptable. I also do not believe that the point of this conversation was not to establish which nation or people committed the largest or most atrocious crimes against other humans, rather that it is these types of crimes that should be avoided in general.

      I agree with Lilly Newsom, we have to accept history and learn from our mistakes. These mistakes are gruesome and it is difficult to accept that humans can be so brutal, however, as Lilly said there is currently genocide occurring in Africa. I encourage all of you to do something no matter how small to help end that genocide or conflicts on smaller scales within your own countries. Personally, if I am ever a mother I do not want my son or daughter to see pictures of the conflicts in Darfur or the Aboriginal living conditions in North America and say “mummy how come this happened and how come you didn’t help stop it?”. I also want to be a teacher and do not want to have to teach the children in my class that during the Armenian genocide, Canada only accepted 1200 refugees and almost 100 years later we still are not doing nearly enough for the people suffering within our own nation and to those in Africa, Haiti, India and all other regions experiencing conflict when there could have been so many more lives saved. In doing nothing I would feel incredible shame, I hope the same would go for many of you.

    13. yuri says:

      Whenever Armenian economy gets bigger than Turkish economy then America will recognize it.

    14. Aboodaub says:

      Turks steal all of their land from greeks and europeans. Turks kill not only armenians. Turks kill many many greeks. Turks rape many greeks. Turks force out last greeks in earl 1900. Turks should say sorry and go back where they from. Give back to greeks and europeans. Turks should say sorry for doing bad to christians. Turks like nazi but say never they sorry.

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