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the idiot judge must be executed too.but anyway he'll be burn in hell forever someday he owed so many lives by hes brainless judgement.

"muslims are dumb", the same would apply to Christians, Jews, Hindus, … simply by replacing "muslim" with "Christian" or "Jew" or "Hindu" or "Scientologist" … BTW, we're all animals, I don't see how a simple fact can be an insult.

And if we let the Christian Fundamentalists run things we'd have the sort of barbaric nonsense going on over here.

All people are the same, and all people are animals, and this is not an insult, but in my opinion a fact. All of us are capable of "good" and "bad" "smart" and "dumb". It doesn't matter what colour or religion, but humans can be a really scary animal indeed, and/or capable of understanding and compassion.

DEAR YOU ALL

This is clearly yet another piece of the usual propaganda crap that is being pushed down the throat of gullible people and racists. If anybody wanted to write about this case, if it really happened, then we should be allowed to read the Court Case proceedings and not the usual demonisation of a religion and a people.

Why should that case be used to promote so-called western values? It is clear that whoever reported about it is not at all interested in the merits of the case. Where is the evidence of all the allegations made in the “documentary”?
If in the West it is acceptable for a 13 year old girl to sleep with whoever or whatever she pleases, or for a teenager to mix freely with boys and go to bed with them, behave like a “gypsy girl”, “go out, drink, smoke, dance, party…”, why should this way of life be more acceptable than any other way of life or religion?

It is perfectly acceptable for Christians, Jews, Communists, Atheists, Socialists, Democrats, Republicans, Liberals, Conservatives, Humanists, Satanists to join the army and torture, murder and mass rape babies, infants, girls, mothers, grandmothers (Bosnia, Kosovo, Algeria, Germany (after WW II), Palestine, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq and so on. If these heinous crimes are all acceptable in the eyes of most people in the West, why should they be accepted by the rest of the world?
On a daily basis, Western armies are bombing Muslim countries, murdering young and old. Chinese, Russians and Indians have murdered and raped hundreds of thousands of Muslims. Now, if we really care for truth, freedom and justice, first let us get the facts right and not get emotional on reading propaganda! Who has a monopoly on good behaviour (apart from Jews and Zionists, of course!)?

Every time the West plans to bomb a Muslim country, their media come up with all sorts of “human rights” abuses in order to prepare the mind of the people into accepting the horrendous crimes they are going to commit. They always demonise the Islamic Shar’ia, but Jews, Christians and Atheists lived under the Shar’ia for hundreds of years, and they were treated one million times better than under Western Communism, Socialism, Liberalism, Democracy, where even the wearing of a head scarf (France) or keeping a beard (India) becomes a crime punishable by law!

In brief, if we want to know more about the fate of that poor 22 or 16 year-old “gypsy/fornicating/recidivist” girl, let us find out THE TRUTH about the case before we open our BIG MOUTH. We cannot have it both ways. Either she was abandoned by all including her own drug-addict father, in which case there is nobody grieving for her, or those who now pretend to be scandalised or concerned are only hypocrites and maybe even liars. After all, what evidence has been provided that the translations of the interviews are faithful?

This reminds me of the myth espoused by the media and the masses for the past 8 years of 19 Arabs who took America off guard and successfully attacked her on 11 September 2001 murdering about 3,000 Americans and foreigners, a plan masterminded and executed by a fanatical Muslim who loves pork, prostitutes, lap dancing, vodka, and carries his Qur’an with him (vodka in one hand and Qur’an in the other!), pays with ‘his’ credit card, sows off in front of everybody, and forgets his Holy Book at the bar, and so on! Obviously it was a MOSSAD operative (usually perverts) and not a Muslim at all!

It is a cowardly act to use this “documentary” to demonise a religion and a people.

Ghyslaine ROC
Thursday 28th of May 2009

Yes, it's clearly primarily (but not only) a human rights issue. But it's also a power issue.

That is, unless you're one of those like Ghyslaine ROC who insist on pushing an agenda with misdirection, misinformation, and hysteria. There appears to be very little but "straw man" and "red herring" fallacies of reasoning in Ghys' tirade. Thank goodness most countries have open public education systems and the press and speech freedoms that enable their people to learn critical thinking skills sufficient to spot such unreason and avoid being deceived by it. (And yes, it's too bad that more people don't apply those CT skills – to themselves as well as to others – regardless of where they're from.)

Everyone has a bias and a perspective, and clearly this documentary-slash-reenactment has a point of view and an agenda. But based on its primary focus and the time it spends on various subjects, it's clearly meant primarily to be about fundamental human rights, the rule of law, and the unfortunate plight of one girl killed for the "crime" of being raped repeatedly and having her plight institutionally ignored (until her case became too troublesome, whereupon she was disposed of).

If the documentary's point appears to be anti-hardline Iranian or anti-Islamic, if people miss its primary human-rights and human-interest focus and think that the video is mainly about promoting anti-Muslim sentiment, then maybe all of us viewers should should ask ourselves what factors permeate the subject society and government so fully that such an interpretation is so difficult for everyone to avoid. Could it have anything to do more broadly with power and its abuses?

A statistical analysis (see website link) of Iran's recent (2009) elections reveals the improbability of a fair election, with more than 100% of the people in certain districts voting for the incumbent. The irregularities are reminiscent of gerrymandering that has happened in other regimes, such as Mugabe's Zimbabwe, when the ruling party will do practically anything to hold on to power. (And if the people can't be controlled… well, then maybe they'll be killed, such as in Tiananmen Square 20 years ago.) If there is so little accountability in the elections, in the judicial system, in the police forces … what then?

Hmmmm.

There are larger questions here that should concern _all_ people: questions of power and its abuses; questions of accountability and the unbiased rule of law; questions of fundamental human dignity and integrity. We have to have the courage to ask the tough questions of _all_ of our political institutions, not just those that we feel we disagree with. I invite Ghys and others to participate in this critical endeavor.

If we can get past the tirades and fallacies, and work toward having more open dialogue, perhaps all sides will understand each other better, and we can hope to find some common ground some day soon.

(In case the link to the statistical analysis news story doesn't post accessibly, see: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8113885.stm)

I am horrified.

yeah, that's pretty narrow minded.

we dont have the money for that where already fuckin around with 3!!! + yemen now countries were fighting 3 countries at once your the type of fail american that gets us in this shit

The sleep of reason shall bring forth monsters.

I would like to first clarify that Iran and the middle east was once a hub for all the science and math of the ancient world. They created algebra, understood the earth was round and that the stars were balls of gas. Humanity is the real monster, humanity created religion to oppress and control. All religion is hateful, loving, and a whole host of other contradictions. You guys remember the crusades? Yeah, this doc demonstrates the love and tolerance of god.

Anyone that has animosity towards Muslims on this discussion board should take a couple steps back. I’d like to ask those certain individuals a question, what makes your religion superior over another individuals? Whether it be Jewish, Hindi, Buddhism, Catholicism? The answer is, it’s not, no one’s is. You can never judge religion, in fact, you should never judge period. When you try and judge another culture through the eyes of your own media that’s saying something in it’s self. It’s saying, “hmm, i can’t think for myself so I should let my perfect government tell me what to believe, or what’s right vs what’s wrong”. Well guess what, all government is corrupt. If this is surprising news to you then that’s unfortunate. If you choose to be ignorant and believe only what you hear and not what you see then that is your sad choice, but don’t go rambling on message boards like you know how the world works when you don’t know jack shit. PEACE